G-CSF for Extensive STEMI.

RATIONALE: In the exploratory Phase II STEM-AMI (Stem Cells Mobilization in Acute Myocardial Infarction) trial, we reported that early administration of G-CSF (granulocyte colony-stimulating factor), in patients with anterior ST-segment-elevation myocardial infarction and left ventricular (LV) dysfunction after successful percutaneous coronary intervention, had the potential to significantly attenuate LV adverse remodeling in the long-term. OBJECTIVE: The STEM-AMI OUTCOME CMR (Stem Cells Mobilization in Acute Myocardial Infarction Outcome Cardiac Magnetic Resonance) Substudy was adequately powered to evaluate, in a population showing LV ejection fraction ≤45% after percutaneous coronary intervention for extensive ST-segment-elevation myocardial infarction, the effects of early administration of G-CSF in terms of LV remodeling and function, infarct size assessed by late gadolinium enhancement, and myocardial strain. METHODS AND RESULTS: Within the Italian, multicenter, prospective, randomized, Phase III STEM-AMI OUTCOME trial, 161 ST-segment-elevation myocardial infarction patients were enrolled in the CMR Substudy and assigned to standard of care (SOC) plus G-CSF or SOC alone. In 119 patients (61 G-CSF and 58 SOC, respectively), CMR was available at baseline and 6-month follow-up. Paired imaging data were independently analyzed by 2 blinded experts in a core CMR lab. The 2 groups were similar for clinical characteristics, cardiovascular risk factors, and pharmacological treatment, except for a trend towards a larger infarct size and longer symptom-to-balloon time in G-CSF patients. ANCOVA showed that the improvement of LV ejection fraction from baseline to 6 months was 5.1% higher in G-CSF patients versus SOC (P=0.01); concurrently, there was a significant between-group difference of 6.7 mL/m2 in the change of indexed LV end-systolic volume in favor of G-CSF group (P=0.02). Indexed late gadolinium enhancement significantly decreased in G-CSF group only (P=0.04). Moreover, over time improvement of global longitudinal strain was 2.4% higher in G-CSF patients versus SOC (P=0.04). Global circumferential strain significantly improved in G-CSF group only (P=0.006). CONCLUSIONS: Early administration of G-CSF exerted a beneficial effect on top of SOC in patients with LV dysfunction after extensive ST-segment-elevation myocardial infarction in terms of global systolic function, adverse remodeling, scar size, and myocardial strain. CLINICAL TRIAL REGISTRATION: URL: https://www.clinicaltrials.gov. Unique identifier: NCT01969890.

Role of microRNAs in doxorubicin-induced cardiotoxicity: an overview of preclinical models and cancer patients.

Cardiotoxicity is a well-known side effect of doxorubicin (DOX), but the mechanisms leading to this phenomenon are still not completely clear. Prediction of drug-induced dysfunction onset is difficult and is still largely based on detection of cardiac troponin (cTn), a circulating marker of heart damage. In the last years, several investigations focused on the possible involvement of microRNAs (miRNAs) in DOX-induced toxicity in vitro, with contrasting results. Recently, several groups employed animal models to mimic patient's condition, investigate the biological pathways perturbed by DOX, and identify diagnostic markers of cardiotoxicity. We reviewed the results from several studies investigating cardiac miRNAs expression in rodent models of DOX-treatment. We also discussed the data from two publications indicating the possible use of circulating miRNA as biomarkers of DOX-induced cardiotoxicity. Unfortunately, limited information was derived from these studies, as selection methods of candidate-miRNAs and heterogeneity in cardiotoxicity assessment greatly hampered the novelty and robustness of the findings. Nevertheless, at least one circulating miRNA, miR-1, showed a good potential as early biomarker of drug-mediated cardiac dysfunction onset. The use of animal models to investigate DOX-induced cardiotoxicity surely helps narrowing the gap between basic research and clinical practice. Despite this, several issues, including selection of relevant miRNAs and less-than-optimal assessment of cardiotoxicity, greatly limited the results obtained so far. Nonetheless, the association of patients-based studies with the use of preclinical models may be the key to address the many unanswered questions regarding the pathophysiology and early detection of cardiotoxicity.

Sacubitril/Valsartan in "Field Practice" Patients with Advanced Heart Failure: A Monocentric Italian Experience.

Patients with advanced heart failure (HF) experience a continuous decline in quality of life and have a very poor prognosis. Moreover, due to numerous comorbidities present in these patients, transplantation and left ventricular assist devices are usually impracticable in clinical practice. In this challenging setting, administration of inotropic agents may be the only possible therapy; however, this treatment requires frequent hospitalizations. Our hypothesis is that sacubitril/valsartan, given its marked efficacy and manageability, can be safely used in clinical practice in this setting, potentially reducing hospitalizations and the need for inotropic support. We report here our experience in a small series of patients with advanced HF treated with sacubitril/valsartan.

Granulocyte-colony stimulating factor for large anterior ST-elevation myocardial infarction: rationale and design of the prospective randomized phase III STEM-AMI OUTCOME trial.

BACKGROUND: Granulocyte-colony stimulating factor (G-CSF) has been clinically tested in ST-elevation myocardial infarction (STEMI) with mixed results. Our 3-year follow-up data from STEM-AMI trial documented a sustained benefit of G-CSF on adverse ventricular remodeling after large anterior STEMI, when administered early and at a high-dose in patients with left ventricular (LV) dysfunction. The Aim of the present trial is to establish whether G-CSF improves hard clinical long-term outcomes. METHODS: The STEM-AMI OUTCOME is a prospective, multicenter, randomized, open-label, phase III trial. It will include 1,530 patients with anterior STEMI undergoing primary percutaneous coronary intervention 2 to 24 hours after symptoms onset and with LV ejection fraction ≤45% after successful reperfusion. Patients will be randomized 1:1 to G-CSF and/or standard treatment. The primary end point is a reduced occurrence of all-cause death, recurrence of myocardial infarction, or hospitalization due to heart failure in G-CSF-treated patients. Left ventricular remodeling will be assessed via cardiac ultrasound and a substudy with cardiac magnetic resonance will be carried out in 120 subjects. Accrual and follow-up periods will last 3 and 2 years, respectively. CONCLUSIONS: The STEM-AMI OUTCOME study is designed to be a rigorous controlled phase III trial with adequate statistical power to conclusively assess efficacy of G-CSF treatment in STEMI.

Added value of real time three-dimensional echocardiography in the diagnosis of an apical right ventricular metastasis from malignant melanoma.

In a man presenting to the emergency room with dyspnea and atypical chest pain irradiated among the scapulae, with new-onset diffuse negative T-waves on the ECG, the first clinical and diagnostic hypothesis was pulmonary embolism (PE). However, computed tomography (CT) performed in emergency was negative for PE, showing instead a marked defect in right ventricle (RV) filling. For this reason, echocardiography was performed to better investigate the nature of the space-occupying lesion, and several echocardiographic modalities were used (two-dimensional transthoracic and transesophageal echocardiography and three-dimensional [3D] transthoracic echocardiography). They revealed the presence of a mass attached to the apex of the RV, partially obstructing the inflow and outflow tracts. Cardiac magnetic resonance imaging was also performed, confirming the findings of 3D echocardiography. After that, several other diagnostic imaging techniques were used for disease staging, since the patient had a history of surgical excision of a malignant melanoma of the skin several years before. Whole-body CT, soft tissue echography and positron emission tomography revealed the widespread diffusion of the primary tumor to distant organs. For this reason, we suspected that the RV mass could also be an intracardiac metastasis from malignant melanoma, and did not perform biopsy given the bad clinical conditions and the worse prognosis of the patient. However, he was entered in an experimental therapeutic protocol with Vemurafenib because he showed B-RAF gene mutation at molecular gene analysis.

Circulating microRNAs are new and sensitive biomarkers of myocardial infarction.

AIMS: Circulating microRNAs (miRNAs) may represent a novel class of biomarkers; therefore, we examined whether acute myocardial infarction (MI) modulates miRNAs plasma levels in humans and mice. METHODS AND RESULTS: Healthy donors (n = 17) and patients (n = 33) with acute ST-segment elevation MI (STEMI) were evaluated. In one cohort (n = 25), the first plasma sample was obtained 517 ± 309 min after the onset of MI symptoms and after coronary reperfusion with percutaneous coronary intervention (PCI); miR-1, -133a, -133b, and -499-5p were ~15- to 140-fold control, whereas miR-122 and -375 were ~87-90% lower than control; 5 days later, miR-1, -133a, -133b, -499-5p, and -375 were back to baseline, whereas miR-122 remained lower than control through Day 30. In additional patients (n = 8; four treated with thrombolysis and four with PCI), miRNAs and troponin I (TnI) were quantified simultaneously starting 156 ± 72 min after the onset of symptoms and at different times thereafter. Peak miR-1, -133a, and -133b expression and TnI level occurred at a similar time, whereas miR-499-5p exhibited a slower time course. In mice, miRNAs plasma levels and TnI were measured 15 min after coronary ligation and at different times thereafter. The behaviour of miR-1, -133a, -133b, and -499-5p was similar to STEMI patients; further, reciprocal changes in the expression levels of these miRNAs were found in cardiac tissue 3-6 h after coronary ligation. In contrast, miR-122 and -375 exhibited minor changes and no significant modulation. In mice with acute hind-limb ischaemia, there was no increase in the plasma level of the above miRNAs. CONCLUSION: Acute MI up-regulated miR-1, -133a, -133b, and -499-5p plasma levels, both in humans and mice, whereas miR-122 and -375 were lower than control only in STEMI patients. These miRNAs represent novel biomarkers of cardiac damage.

Outcomes Related to Antiplatelet Therapy in a High-Risk ST-Segment Elevation Myocardial Infarction Population: A Retrospective Real-World Analysis of an Italian ECMO Center.

AIM: To evaluate outcomes related to antiplatelet therapy in patients with ST-elevation myocardial infarction (STEMI) admitted to the San Gerardo Hospital in Monza, an extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) reference center in the Monza-Brianza area. METHODS: This retrospective study enrolled patients with STEMI hospitalized between 2013 and 2017. RESULTS: This study included 653 patients (mean age: 67.5 years, 71% male). Across the study period, ticagrelor use showed consistent increases, from 22% of patients during 2013 to 85% in 2017. Cardiac arrest prehospitalization occurred in 100 patients (15.3%), either at home (n = 85, 13.0%) or during transfer (n = 15, 2.3%); 46 patients underwent ECMO for refractory cardiac arrest. Rates of 90-day survival (hazard ratio [HR]: 2.4, 95% confidence interval [CI]: 1.3-4.4, P = .004) and ST resolution (odds ratio [OR]: 2.5, 95% CI: 1.6-4.1, P = .000) were higher with ticagrelor than with other antiplatelet agents. When analyzed by each agent, patients on ticagrelor had longer survival (HR: 0.4, 95% CI: 0.2-0.8, P = .008) than patients on clopidogrel and more frequent ST resolution than those on clopidogrel or prasugrel (OR: 0.4, 95% CI: 0.2-0.7, P = .002 and OR: 0.4, 95% CI: 0.2-0.7, P = .006). There was no difference in mortality between ticagrelor and prasugrel. CONCLUSIONS: Changes in the treatment of high-risk patients with STEMI over time are in line with changes in treatment guidelines. In these patients, ticagrelor is associated with significantly improved 90-day mortality compared with clopidogrel.

The hidden hypothesis: A disseminated tuberculosis case.

CASE PRESENTATION: 77-year-old former smoker admitted because of fatigue and abdominal distention. Past medical history positive for two previous hospitalizations for pericardial and pleural effusions (no diagnosis achieved). At admission erythrocyte sedimentation rate was 122mm per hour. Baseline investigations revealed ascitic, pleural and pericardial effusion. Effusions were tapped: neoplastic cells and acid-fast bacilli (AFB) were not identified, aerobic and mycobacterial culture resulted negative. QuantiFERON TB-Gold test was negative. Total body PET-CT and autoimmunity panel were negative. A neoplastic process was considered the most likely explanation. Before signing off the patient to comfort care, a reassessment was performed and an exposure to tuberculosis during childhood was documented. Because of constrictive pericarditis, pericardiectomy was performed: histologic examination showed chronic pericardial inflammation without granulomas, but Ziehl-Neelsen stain identified AFB and PCR was positive for Mycobacterium tuberculosis complex. Patient was started on anti-TB therapy with resolution of the effusions in the following months. Genes associated with defects in innate immunity were sequences and dentritic cells were studied, but no alterations were identified. DISCUSSION: A Bayesian approach to clinical decision making should be recommended. Interpretation of diagnostic tests should take into account the imperfect diagnostic performance of the majority of these tests. Further studies to investigate genetic susceptibility to tuberculosis are needed.

Linking cell function with perfusion: insights from the transcatheter delivery of bone marrow-derived CD133+ cells in ischemic refractory cardiomyopathy trial (RECARDIO).

BACKGROUND: Cell therapy with bone marrow (BM)-derived progenitors has emerged as a promising therapeutic for refractory angina (RA) patients. In the present study, we evaluated the safety and preliminary efficacy of transcatheter delivery of autologous BM-derived advanced therapy medicinal product CD133+ cells (ATMP-CD133) in RA patients, correlating perfusion outcome with cell function. METHODS: In the phase I "Endocavitary Injection of Bone Marrow Derived CD133+ Cells in Ischemic Refractory Cardiomyopathy" (RECARDIO) trial, a total of 10 patients with left ventricular (LV) dysfunction (ejection fraction ≤ 45%) and evidence of reversible ischemia, as assessed by single-photon emission computed tomography (SPECT), underwent BM aspiration and fluoroscopy-based percutaneous endomyocardial delivery of ATMP-CD133. Patients were evaluated at 6 and 12 months for safety and preliminary efficacy endpoints. ATMP-CD133 samples were used for in vitro correlations. RESULTS: Patients were treated safely with a mean number of 6.57 ± 3.45 ×  106 ATMP-CD133. At 6-month follow-up, myocardial perfusion at SPECT was significantly ameliorated in terms of changes in summed stress (from 18.2 ± 8.6 to 13.8 ± 7.8, p = 0.05) and difference scores (from 12.0 ± 5.3 to 6.1 ± 4.0, p = 0.02) and number of segments with inducible ischemia (from 7.3 ± 2.2 to 4.0 ± 2.7, p = 0.003). Similarly, Canadian Cardiovascular Society and New York Heart Association classes significantly improved at follow-up vs baseline (p ≤ 0.001 and p = 0.007, respectively). Changes in summed stress score changes positively correlated with ATMP-CD133 release of proangiogenic cytokines HGF and PDGF-bb (r = 0.80, p = 0.009 and r = 0.77, p = 0.01, respectively) and negatively with the proinflammatory cytokines RANTES (r = - 0.79, p = 0.01) and IL-6 (r = - 0.76, p = 0.02). CONCLUSION: Results of the RECARDIO trial suggested safety and efficacy in terms of clinical and perfusion outcomes in patients with RA and LV dysfunction. The observed link between myocardial perfusion improvements and ATMP-CD133 secretome may represent a proof of concept for further mechanistic investigations. TRIAL REGISTRATION: ClinicalTrials.gov, NCT02059681 . Registered 11 February 2014.

Effects of extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation on neurological and cardiac outcome after ischaemic refractory cardiac arrest.

BACKGROUND: Extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation is increasingly recognised as a rescue therapy for refractory cardiac arrest, nevertheless data are scanty about its effects on neurologic and cardiac outcome. The aim of this study is to compare clinical outcome in patients with cardiac arrest of ischaemic origin (i.e. critical coronary plaque during angiography) and return of spontaneous circulation during conventional cardiopulmonary resuscitation vs refractory cardiac arrest patients needing extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation. Moreover, we tried to identify predictors of survival after successful cardiopulmonary resuscitation. METHODS: We enrolled 148 patients with ischaemic cardiac arrest admitted to our hospital from 2011-2015. We compared clinical characteristics, cardiac arrest features, neurological and echocardiographic data obtained after return of spontaneous circulation (within 24 h, 15 days and six months). RESULTS: Patients in the extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation group ( n=63, 43%) were younger (59±9 vs 63±8 year-old, p=0.02) with lower incidence of atherosclerosis risk factors than those with conventional cardiopulmonary resuscitation. In the extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation group, left ventricular ejection fraction was lower than conventional cardiopulmonary resuscitation at early echocardiography (19±16% vs 37±11 p<0.01). Survivors in both groups showed similar left ventricular ejection fraction 15 days and 4-6 months after cardiac arrest (46±8% vs 49±10, 47±11% vs 45±13%, p not significant for both), despite a major extent and duration of cardiac ischaemia in extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation patients. At multivariate analysis, the total cardiac arrest time was the only independent predictor of survival. CONCLUSIONS: Extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation patients are younger and have less comorbidities than conventional cardiopulmonary resuscitation, but they have worse survival and lower early left ventricular ejection fraction. Survivors after extracorporeal cardiopulmonary resuscitation have a neurological outcome and recovery of heart function comparable to subjects with return of spontaneous circulation. Total cardiac arrest time is the only predictor of survival after cardiopulmonary resuscitation in both groups.

Right ventricular reverse remodelling in Idiopathic Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension diagnosed during pregnancy: Is it possible?

We present a case of a 36-year-old woman who developed a severe form of Idiopathic Pulmonary Arterial Hypertension (IPAH) during pregnancy and after emergency delivery. The management of IPAH during or after pregnancy is complex. Due to the severity of her IPAH, an upfront triple combination therapy, including i.v. epoprostenol, was started. The rapid institution of this treatment regimen allowed a complete right ventricular reverse remodelling after 1 year of therapy, leading to a down-titration until complete suspension of epoprostenol from the treatment regimen.

Cell Therapy for Refractory Angina: A Reappraisal.

Cardiac cell-based therapy has emerged as a novel therapeutic option for patients dealing with untreatable refractory angina (RA). However, after more than a decade of controlled studies, no definitive consensus has been reached regarding clinical efficacy. Although positive results in terms of surrogate endpoints have been suggested by early and phase II clinical studies as well as by meta-analyses, the more recent reports lacked the provision of definitive response in terms of hard clinical endpoints. Regrettably, pivotal trials designed to conclusively determine the efficacy of cell-based therapeutics in such a challenging clinical condition are therefore still missing. Considering this, a comprehensive reappraisal of cardiac cell-based therapy role in RA seems warranted and timely, since a number of crucial cell- and patient-related aspects need to be systematically analysed. As an example, the large variability in efficacy endpoint selection appears to be a limiting factor for the advancement of cardiac cell-based therapy in the field. This review will provide an overview of the key elements that may have influenced the results of cell-based trials in the context of RA, focusing in particular on the understanding at which the extent of angina-related endpoints may predict cell-based therapeutic efficacy.

BM ageing: Implication for cell therapy with EPCs.

The bone marrow (BM) is a well-recognized source of stem/progenitor cells for cell therapy in cardiovascular diseases (CVDs). Preclinical and clinical studies suggest that endothelial progenitor cells (EPCs) contribute to reparative process of vascular endothelium and participate in angiogenesis. As for all organs and cells across the lifespan, BM and EPCs are negatively impacted by ageing due to microenvironment modifications and EPC progressive dysfunctions. The encouraging results in terms of neovascularization observed in young animals after EPC administration were mitigated in aged patients treated for ischemic CVDs. The limited efficacy of EPC-based therapy in clinical setting might be ascribed at least partly to ageing. In this review, we comprehensively discussed the age-related changes of BM and EPCs and their implication for cardiovascular cell-therapies. Finally, we examined alternative approaches under investigation to enhance EPC potency.

Safety, Efficacy, and Complications of Pericardiocentesis by Real-Time Echo-Monitored Procedure.

Pericardiocentesis is useful in the diagnosis and treatment of pericardial effusive disease. To date, a number of methods have been developed to reduce complications and increase the success rate of the procedure. The aim of the present study was to evaluate the efficacy and the safety of echocardiography-guided pericardiocentesis under continuous echocardiographic monitoring in the management of pericardial effusion. We prospectively performed 161 pericardiocentesis procedures in 141 patients admitted from 1993 to 2015 in 3 centers. This procedure was performed for tamponade or large pericardial effusion in 157 cases and for diagnosis in 4 cases. A percutaneous puncture was performed where the largest amount of fluid was detected. To perform a real-time echo-guided procedure, a multi-angle bracket was mounted on the echocardiographic probe to support the needle and enable its continuous visualization during the puncture. The procedure was successful in 160 of 161 cases (99%). Two major complications occurred (1.2%): 1 mediastinal hematoma that required surgical drainage in a patient on anticoagulant therapy and 1 pleuropericardial shunt requiring thoracentesis. Seven minor complications occurred (4.3%): 1 pleuropericardial shunt, 1 case of transient AV type III block, 3 vasovagal reactions (1 with syncope), and 2 cases of acute pulmonary edema managed with medical therapy. No punctures of any cardiac chamber occurred, and emergency surgical drainage was not required in any case. In conclusion, echocardiography-guided pericardiocentesis under continuous visualization is effective, safe, and easy to perform, even in hospitals with low volumes of procedures with or without cardiac surgery.

Radial, carotid and aortic distensibility in congestive heart failure: effects of high-dose angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor or low-dose association with angiotensin type 1 receptor blockade.

UNLABELLED: objectives; The aim of this study was to determine whether in patients with congestive heart failure (CHF) a distensibility (Dist) reduction: 1) similarly occurs in different arteries; 2) is related to CHF severity; and 3) is reversible with treatment. background: Several studies suggest that CHF is accompanied by a reduced arterial Dist. METHODS: We measured diameter in radial artery, carotid artery (CA) and abdominal aorta (AO) by echotracking. Distensibility was obtained by relating it to blood pressure. Data were collected in 30 patients with CHF (New York Heart Association functional class I to III) under standard treatment with diuretic, digitalis and angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitor in whom CHF severity was assessed by maximum oxygen consumption (VO(2)max) percentage and in 30 age- and gender-matched controls. Patients with CHF were then randomized to maintain standard treatment (n = 10), double the ACE inhibitor dose (n = 10) or add an angiotensin II antagonist (n = 10) and restudied after two months. RESULTS: Distensibility was markedly reduced in the CHF group in all three vessels (p < 0.01), CA and AO Dist being related to CHF severity (p < 0.05). After two months, Dist did not change in the group maintained under standard treatment, but it increased significantly (p < 0.05) and similarly when the ACE inhibitor dose was doubled or an angiotensin II antagonist was added. CONCLUSIONS: Congestive heart failure is characterized by a reduction of Dist of large-elastic and middle-sized muscular arteries. The reduction of large-elastic artery Dist is related to the CHF severity. These alterations can be reversed by drugs, effectively interfering with the renin-angiotensin system either at the ACE or at the angiotensin receptor level.

Tako-tsubo: a transitory impairment of microcirculation? A case report.

The tako-tsubo syndrome, or transient left ventricular apical ballooning, has been widely described in Japan as a cardiomyopathy which resembles acute myocardial infarction on presentation, but characterized by a normal coronary tree and a favorable outcome. Conversely few series have been described in Europe and etiology and mechanism are still unknown. We describe the case of a 74-year-old Italian woman with tako-tsubo cardiomyopathy, one of the first Italian cases reported to our knowledge. In the acute phase, echocardiography and ventriculography showed the typical mid-apical systolic left ventricular dysfunction, with an angiographically normal coronary tree. A few days after, technetium-99m single-photon emission computed tomography disclosed a large mid-apical perfusion defect and dobutamine stress echocardiography showed a typical "biphasic" response. Three months later, all of these tests normalized with normal left ventricular function. In conclusion, the results of functional tests, during the acute and subacute phases, suggest that, in the absence of evident coronary spasm, a transitory reduction of the coronary reserve played a role in the pathogenesis. In the absence of epicardial coronary obstruction this could be due to a transient microcircle dysfunction, and may be attributed to a spasm followed by impaired vasodilation capability.

Myocardial metastasis from oesophageal cancer.

Three years after surgical resection of oesophageal tumour, during the regular instrumental oncologic follow-up performed by thoracic computed tomography scan in an otherwise asymptomatic 48-year-old man, a left ventricular mass was detected. It developed during a 6-month-period, and at the time of discovery it measured 63 × 61 mm. The mass was further evaluated with echocardiography and cardiac magnetic resonance imaging, and a histology specimen was obtained by myocardial biopsy, revealing it was a metastasis from the primitive tumour, in the absence of other organ involvement. The diagnostic process and possible therapeutic options for solitary intracardiac metastasis in the absence of involvement of other organs are briefly discussed.